Sunday, February 8, 2009

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  1. that doesen't really answer my question... but, ok....

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  2. here's your last comment directed (im guessing) at me:
    I agree we should finish up our current deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan, but can't we get some treadstone assaination thing on Mugabe. However, 9-11 happened after we entered the Middle East, look up Bush senior and clintons presidencies.

    No, assassinating their leader alone would not work. Just look at Saddam Hussein. He's dead, and Iraq still isn't stable.

    Yes, I realize that 9-11 happened after we entered the Middle East. However, I'm not sure what the significance of that comment on your part was.

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  3. hmmm, you know what i saw online today? an elderly woman and her 37 year old son said they were homeless at a obama press confrence thingy, and they asked for obama's help. he automatically called housing authorites and got them help. don't get me wrong, it's good that obama did that, but what about the millions of other people who are in the same position as them with all of the foreclosed homes???? i think our new president has found himself a problemo.

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  4. ah. i sort of agree with lauren. what obama did was amazing but the point is, we need an efficient plan for attacking homelessness. we can't just go "get them houses." we dont have those kind of resources. you can't be irresponsible with money.

    however, in spite of everything, i think this only makes me like obama more. i've always said his heart was in the right place, in spite of his impracticality.

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  5. Yes, I agree with what both of you have to say. His heart was in the right place, but I have the feeling the media will attack him for doing this. If Barrack does something like that for one person, it is his job to do the same thing for everyone else. But also, on Obama's side, just imagine if he hadn't done anything. Everyone would have hated him for it. So basically, Obama was put in a position where both of his two options would lead him to grief....

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  6. yes, both sides of this are very true.... but i still wonder what he'd do about this.....

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  7. well goingo on with the argumentin my opinion:

    Obama was being very nice getting them a home but dont you think getting them a job would help more. How are they going to pay for the bills?

    "Get a man to fish feed him for a day teach a man to fish feed him for a life."

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  8. true, but he didn't really get them a house... he called housing authorities and helped with the whole shelter stuff. but, yes, i agree that a job would help more.

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  9. so obama's going to march into wallstreet and say get these nickel bag snorting bums a job at the top. No! he didn't do anything for them, he simply fixed an problem in the shelters service. Where did you hear about this? Fox? Hannity? A squirrel named Ralph?

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  10. he can't just give them a job. A job is something you have to get for yourself. He is supposed to give unqualified people a job they might lose the next day. Its their duty to get a job, not to president's to provide baseless fodder for lazy people. Food stamps and shelter should be provided for all. Sticking underqualified people in jobs they will likely fail at is pointless, like letting illegal immigrants take jobs from Americans. I'm sure you all hate that. But you're right, and this is how it would go: 1. "ohhh, sucks for you!" 2. " you're right, everyone in America gets a home and a job. What job you ask? Well.... We could start a war in a country with a large oil supply on the basis of a terrorist attack from terrorist in another country, our oil partner. Then, we could remove that dictator who already hated the group that caused that terrorist attack, even though the leader of that group is hiding from everyone because he is shunned from the country we attack and the country he was born in. We could also just stand by while humanitarian crises are happening far away, and we can leave all the other dicktators in control. Then, we could capture a few goatherders from the hills and advanced interrogate them to confirm our suspicions that the country had big weapons, even though we had to tell them what the big weapons are. It will increase oil supply, kill off hobos, and increase public and foriegn opinion. It's failproof!!!" The End

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  11. Ya know david, just a because a person is homeless or poor doesn't make them a lazy drug addict. yes, there are lots of lazy drug attacks, but they're are also people who lost their jobs because their company is laying people off, or people who over bought stocks and then the market crashed around them, or people who have medical bills that are too high to pay...there are so many things that could make a person have financial issues. not just laziness.

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  12. yeah, i agree w/ charise. that's biased. and no, i don't get my sources from a squirrel named ralph....

    ~Lauren

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  13. okay, david, first of all, turn off the defensive. i love how we were discussing homelessness and ended up talking about the war. but while we're on that topic, be consistent. you can't say we didn't need to overthrow sadaam hussein, but it's wrong for us to "leave other dictators in their place." and "killing off hobos" has nothing to do with it. someone needs to calm down.

    however, i do agree with your point that foot stamps and shelter are mandatory. however, i also believe that anyone in this position should be required BY LAW to be looking or somehow preparing for a job (ie going to school.) the single plus side to communism was that it was, no exaggeration, ILLEGAL to be unemployed. if you didn't have a job one was supplied for you.

    honestly, i agree with charise. it depends 100% on the circumstances and i know NOTHING about this woman that was granted a home. maybe she's a lazy drug addict, maybe she's a hardworking single mother whose son has high medical bills. this whole argument is moot; i have nothing more to add to it because we have no idea what this woman's circumstances are like.

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  14. "We could also just stand by while humanitarian crises are happening far away, and we can leave all the other dicktators in control."

    that's a quote from your last comment. well, i'd like to point out a little thing called MASS GRAVES. who says iraq wasn't a humanitarian crisis? saddam hussein needed to get out.

    "Then, we could capture a few goatherders from the hills and advanced interrogate them to confirm our suspicions that the country had big weapons, even though we had to tell them what the big weapons are."

    another direct quote. keep in mind that it was not only poorly conducted us intelligence that told us there were wmd in iraq. the intelligence of several other countries, among them israel and russia, also suggested saddam had wmd.

    this makes pretty much everything after your sixth sentence completely moot.

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  15. "Yes, I agree with what both of you have to say. His heart was in the right place, but I have the feeling the media will attack him for doing this. If Barrack does something like that for one person, it is his job to do the same thing for everyone else. But also, on Obama's side, just imagine if he hadn't done anything. Everyone would have hated him for it. So basically, Obama was put in a position where both of his two options would lead him to grief...."

    to be totally honest, i dont think he would have gotten any media flak for doing this. the media loves obama. he can do no wrong in their eyes -- just look how they butchered hilary, just to boost him up in the primaries?

    however, i also cant imagine him saying no to this woman, solely because he has a HEART. he's like "im the president of the usa, i can afford to do this, why wouldn't i?" and that would be totally true except, like i said, he has a country to run. he needs to learn how to set aside this emotions and make decisions based on the greater good.

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  16. u spelled dictataors wrong...hehehehehe

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  17. well, it seems like we kinda dropped the conversation.... i'd like to start it back up with that whole Caylee Anthony thing. can't they just except that the mom probably got crazy, couldn't handle her responsibilities, and killed her own daughter? stop going on Nancy Grace to talk about it, and say case closed already.

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